Testimony in Indianapolis: Large amounts of porn in homes and cars of child molesters, used to train victims

Indianapolis city officials heard testimony about peoples’ encounters with porn at a hearing of the Indianapolis City-County Council Adminstration Committee on April 14, 1984. This account appears in In Harm’s Way: The Pornography Civil Rights Hearings (p.276-280).

Testimony of Mary

My name is Mary and I came here today because I was a victim of child pornography at the age, that I can remember, from three years old to fourteen. But I know I was as a baby, because I caught my father with my two younger brothers and two younger sisters from their first day of birth. He had two suitcases full of pornography. One of them was like a large trunk size suitcase full, and the other was, there was like a set of luggage with three suitcases. He used the biggest one and when he would go to close the suitcase, it was like he, he had to close them just like you would an over-stuffed suitcase, the pictures stuffed inside so he would close it without them falling out.

I come from three generations of incest. My mother was a victim of it also… My father also went on to sexually molest, in the same way he did my systers and brothers and myself, seven out of eleven of his own grandchildren.

There was sodomy, there was bondage…

I’ve had anal intercourse, vaginal intercourse with my father. I have been given complete ejaculations in my mouth, all of my body, with his ejaculation into the bowels. I’ve had my hands and feet tied, depending on which position my father wanted me in. I have had my mouth taped to teach me that big girls don’t cry because everybody isn’t as fortunate to have a father that will teach them the facts of life. My father also, at the age of four years old, shared his pornography with my babysitter across the street, and allowed me to be used in her and her boyfriend’s orgies.

At ten years old, we lived across the street from a family that had a boy and a girl. The girl and I became friends and my father was out of town at the time. When my father was home, you’re a very isolated family… I went over there and I only stayed a couple of nights. I couldn’t stay anymore because that was also an incestuous situation. There were the father and the mother, there was pornographic magazines all over all of the house, the girl was about my age, the boy was about a year or two younger. And he had the same aggressive actions that his father did towards his sister, that his father did toward his mother, and that his father also had toward his sister and him… I couldn’t tell nobody, because he had tried with me, and things like this. But there was nobody to tell because you’re programmed, you’re programmed very well, to know that if you say anything, or if anybody finds out, everybody’s going to know that it was your fault, that you were the enticer.

Now, logically, at 47 years old, I know a three-year-old child could not be responsible. But in dealing with, in living with this, logic has nothing to do with the therapy, with the overcoming, the mental anguish, the mental everything that you have to live with. I have to this day, I have video flashbacks of things that have happened to me. I can just be doing normal everyday things. I don’t even think about it, my father or anything, they just come…

Adulthood, it makes it very hard for me because, I’m very blunt, I will tell you, that it’s been over five years since I have been able to have any sexual feelings with my husband. I can’t handle it. There never has been that much contact. My sisters and brothers have all been, they’ve been prostitutes, drug addicts, alcoholics…

But this last four years I’ve been [fortunate] coming into contact with a Dr. Frank O’Sanka–he’s a behavioral consultant of Napierville, Illinois–and fortunate to be a very small part of what he does in traveling around and doing seminars and things like this… [T]his has been the only good therapy I’ve ever had in my life.”

Testimony of Judy

Our daughter was a victim of sexual assault for a period of four-and-a-half years. And when this man was arrested in our home, found in his car, in the trunk of his car, was a considerable amount of pornographic material. Our child is not in our home. This was so traumatic for her that she had to be hospitalized and probably will not be in our home for another year, which means that, as a victim, she was removed from our home for a period of over two years. The perpetrator–we did press charges–he spent one year in jail, and is now out, while our child is still not at home.

Testimony of Terry Hall

Good evening, my name is Detective Terry Hall with the Indianapolis Police Department. I was asked to come here today to give you a little bit of insight into my investigations as a sex crimes investigator… I’ll try my best to give you some examples [of] how pornography has come under my investigations. Quite a few rape investigations that I have conducted, especially where there was violence, upon arresting the suspect, I find that there were hard-core pornography in the suspect’s house or in the suspect’s car. I’ve had several rape victims, especially, it seems, to always be the more violent rapes, where the victim was made to look at pornography while the rape was occurring. I think I’m not qualified to say whether this started the rape or whether the rape would have been done without the pornography. I’m just telling you that when I make my investigation, especially on the more brutal ones, usually there’s pornography, hard-core pornography, there showing something like sado-masochist or bestiality… I’ve had a large amount of pornography used by adults to school young girls in the sexual acts. I have recently investigated a case where a ten-year-old boy was being sexually abused by seventeen-year-old boys who used pornography and expecting certain sexual acts that they wanted him to do. I’ve also had a family, complete family, that used pornography and I started working on a molestation that was with a father and went all the way down through the children where extensive pornography was used, even over into uncles and cousins.

The lady that was just up here previously [Judy] is one of the most devastating cases to my estimation that I have ever had to investigate. It took a personal toll on my life as fourteen years as a police officer. I would like to expand on that case a little bit. The person that did this molestation was not a crumb bum… This man was a prominent Indianapolis attorney who used the pornography to school and indoctrinate this child into thinking that everything she done was okay. And when I got to the child, she did think everything she done was okay, because, as she stated, that it was in the books, and children are taught to read and taught to pay attention to books from a very early age. Because this man was a very educated man, he was an attorney, it was very easy for him, with the help of visual aids–and we all know that lecture is probably the worst way to convey any type of educational material and that visual aids is one of the best–this visual aid that was used was pornography. I’m not talking about just a little bit of pornography, meaning hard-core magazines. Films were used, the child was made to have a type of sex with an animal, and a lot of other things that I’m sure that I don’t need to go into here. All of it was copied from or directly out of a book, just like they was depicted in the book. It wasn’t anything innovative or anything he made up. It was directly by the book. When I arrested the man, in the people’s home, he had cameras and instamatic pictures of the girl committing sex acts on him. This girl was eight years old when this started and when I opened the trunk of his car, he had around three hundred hard-core magazines with pornographic pictures in them.

…I keep running into these cases where I arrest the suspect and I find so much pornography, hard-core pornography, around, especially showing abuse and
pain to the victim of the sexual attack.

See also:

Capital Video’s Magazine Rack: Bondage, Racism and More
“Because her body is beginning to ache, she writhes on the carpet. It makes watching her even more arousing.”

“A bed is still one of the most convenient bondage platforms invented by man. If the headboard is of the metal type, rather than solid wood, so much the better. A girl’s wrists can readily be tied to it, imprisoning her.”

“Tied to the post, Tracy takes a fearful whipping.”

“With the shapely divorcee twisting like a snake and frantically protesting the indignity he was inflicting on her, Rex proceeded to peel her black panties down…”

“My Father, The Hero: First He Protected Me, Then He Porked Me!”

“Getting Gooey with Uncle Louie: His Huge Cock Made Me A Woman!”

“Two on a Tool: I Gave Both My Daughters  A Good  F___!”

“Virgin Territory: The thought of finally sinking my prong into this daughter-whore of mine, who had me so bamboozled, turned me into nothing more than a walking hard-on”

Exposure to Pornography as a Cause of Child Sexual Victimization
The incest started at the age of eight. I did not understand any of it and did not feel that it was right. My dad would try to convince me that it was ok. He would find magazines, articles or pictures that would show fathers and daughters or mothers, brothers and sisters having sexual intercourse. (Mostly fathers and daughters.) He would say that if it was published in magazines that it had to be all right because magazines could not publish lies… He would say, “See it’s okay to do because it’s published in magazines…”

When child molesters expose targeted children to pornography, the children often feel guilty and complicit, particularly if they found the material sexually exciting or masturbated to it. According to Scotland Yard, one of the five major ways that pedophiles use pornography is to “ensure the secrecy of any sexual activity with a child who has already been seduced” (Tate, 1990, p. 24). Child molesters can often silence their victims by telling them that their parents would be very upset to learn that they had watched pornography. Even without such warnings, children often fear that their parents will blame and punish them for having looked at this material. Children who are sexually abused following the exposure may feel complicit in the abuse and thus become even more motivated to remain silent. Ultimately, this reduces the likelihood that abused children will disclose the sexual abuse to their parents or others.

Some Porn Hard to Distinguish from Training for Pedophiles (explicit language)
In this scene, the girl went into a house, where she called out for her older sister. Max entered the house shortly after her, also looking for the sister. After he found the girl in her sister’s bedroom snooping into her sister’s possessions, Max said that if the girl was good to him, he would not tell the sister about her snooping. Acting confused, as one would expect a child to be in such a situation, the girl is told by Max that he would “show you what boys like” but that they would have to be careful because if the sister found them, “She’ll get mad.”

Porn’s “Verbatim” Accounts of the Pleasures of Child Sexual Abuse Don’t Square with Reality
At one point (page 43) she writes, “Wandella was the aggressor, the seducer. She waited until her father was somewhat over his initial grief [at the death of his wife] and then she set her incestuous plan in action, gaining the results she had hoped for. Her father was no match for Wandella, especially since he was in a bereaved and weakened emotional condition.”

What is this, if not the age-old “fantasy” that the child seduces the adult, and where else does this derive except from the imagination of the adult who is burdened with a guilt he will not accept? Of course I am using the words “fantasy” and “imagination” as synonyms of “lies”, which is what they are. The entire narrative is “positive”, that is, Wandella expresses nothing but pleasure and happiness…

24 thoughts on “Testimony in Indianapolis: Large amounts of porn in homes and cars of child molesters, used to train victims

  1. Is this serious? Obviously it’s a horrible job. I have some friends in the business who are a couple. They’re not faithful to each other by any definition but they have NO expectations of that kind of commitment either. It’s PORN! It’s made to excite people sexually. If someone expects some sort of glamorous life while performing for that kind of audience they deserve the rude awakening they get. As for those viewing the movies and pictures, it’s just fantasy. It’s just there for some personal entertainment. If you don’t want it in your life don’t let it in. It’s a choice… like drinking alcohol or smoking Marlboro’s.

  2. I think we have shown beyond a reasonable doubt that porn is not just harmless fantasy. It harms many viewers  (poisons their attitudes, addicts some, teaches viewers how to commit sex crimes) and harms many of those who come in contact with these viewers, especially spouses and children. The effects of consuming porn are not limited to just the consenting viewer.

    You may know the porn life is not glamorous but clearly many of those who advocate for the porn industry would prefer people to believe otherwise, such as these Penn State law professors. We have also shown how many young women are bamboozled into porn acting by suggestions that it is likely to lead to fame and glamour. The pervasive use of intoxicants by porn actors suggests the judgment of many is impaired. In short, the porn industry makes a mockery of informed consent.

  3. That’s a pretty strong statement. Cigarettes and alcohol are widely recognized to pose serious health risks, are the subjects of major public education campaigns, and are heavily regulated. Cigarette manufacturers even concede that their products are addictive.

    We are a long way from this state of affairs with porn. Ignorance of the hazards of porn is pervasive, and our opponents frequently resist any kind of regulation of the industry, no matter how slight or well-justified. The age of first exposure for many is well under 18, when judgment and experience are weak.

  4. I’m very interested in this subject and I myself do alot of research as well. Either way it was a well thoughtout and nice read so I figured I would leave you a comment. Feel free to check out my website sometime and let me know what you think soin.

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